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Origin 2000 Rack with 2 Modules...
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f***@gmail.com
2008-06-17 15:01:56 UTC
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Who can tell me how to setup or configure this Origin rack to assign
one module as 1 and the other as 2...1 is on the bottom and has the
system disk plugged in...
Help,
Ken
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Joerg Behrens
2008-06-18 10:08:33 UTC
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Who can tell me how to setup or configure this Origin rack to assign
one module as 1 and the other as 2...1 is on the bottom and has the
system disk plugged in...
You can try to erease all the logs from the pod and see if the system
try to assign new IDs or just connect to each single module and try a
"help" in the prom. There is something like "moduleid" or so which
prints the current ID and with "moduleid 123" it sets a new one.

Did this 4.5 years ago. But i remember that we have the same thing some
weeks ago in the nekochan.net forum.

regards
Joerg
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f***@gmail.com
2008-06-19 16:24:10 UTC
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Who can tell me how to setup or configure this Origin rack to assign
one module as 1 and the other as 2...1 is on the bottom and has the
system disk plugged in...
You can try to erease all the logs from the pod and see if the system
try to assign new IDs or just connect to each single module and try a
"help" in the prom. There is something like "moduleid" or so which
prints the current ID and with "moduleid 123" it sets a new one.
Did this 4.5 years ago. But i remember that we have the same thing some
weeks ago in the nekochan.net forum.
regards
Joerg
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Thanks Joerg...how do I get into the POD...what magic keyboard
combination...my console is connected to the console input on the MMSC
in the back of the rack...and currently I get nothing coming
out...however; if I hit
<Ctrl-T> i do get the prompt..."MMSC>"
Thanks again,
Ken
8-)
Joerg Behrens
2008-06-20 11:44:16 UTC
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Who can tell me how to setup or configure this Origin rack to assign
one module as 1 and the other as 2...1 is on the bottom and has the
system disk plugged in...
You can try to erease all the logs from the pod and see if the system
try to assign new IDs or just connect to each single module and try a
"help" in the prom. There is something like "moduleid" or so which
prints the current ID and with "moduleid 123" it sets a new one.
Did this 4.5 years ago. But i remember that we have the same thing some
weeks ago in the nekochan.net forum.
Thanks Joerg...how do I get into the POD...what magic keyboard
combination...
In the PROM (without the ")
"go cac"
"clearalllogs"
"initalllogs"
"flush"
"reset" <the system will reset>

But normaly this doesnt effect the module id.
When it restarts, go back into the PROM monitor and try "moduleid X"
"enableall", "update". and "reset" again.


If you typ in "help" in the local prom you will see the right name of
the moduleid command.
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my console is connected to the console input on the MMSC
in the back of the rack...and currently I get nothing coming
out...however; if I hit
<Ctrl-T> i do get the prompt..."MMSC>"
<Ctrl-T>help<enter>

With the right command you can bypass every order directly to a specific
module. But i preferer the following for the initial setup:
1. Disconnect your MMSC, hook up your console diretly to port 1. of
module one (the lower one)
2. Disconnect the upper module from power and start only the lower one.
Change the settings you need and try the same with the upper module.
3. After that reconnect the MMSC and connect both modules again to
power. Use the scan function in the MMSC for scanning the new modules
and rack IDs.


From my MMSC
MMSC> ver
R1:MMSC 2.3
R2:MMSC 2.3


Passing directly to the MSCs
MMSC> msc ver
R1U:ok VER 3.1
R1L:ok VER 3.1
R2U:ERROR TIMEOUT (ProcessCommand)
R2L:ok VER 3.1
(Module 4 isnt powered on currently)

You have to select a rack->module first befor start configuration of a
spefic MSC


MMSC> pwr u
Starts the machine without the need of turn on the keys or pressing the
button on the LCD panel.

MMSC> pwr d
Power off

A short list of the MSC commands for o200 can be find on techpubs[1]. A
complete list isnt available for the public. You need the "origin
hardware quick reference" book for detail infos.

Btw.. every module shows the current ID on the MSC display.
P0M1C
P0M2
P0M3
P0M4

P = Partion
0 = Number of the partion
M = Module
1 = ModulID
C = held the console


1.
http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/tpl/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi/hdwr/bks/SGI_Admin/books/Origin200_OG/sgi_html/ch04.html#id66952

regards
Joerg
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97080 Wuerzburg Tel: +49 931 903-2243
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HRB Wuerzburg 6940 http://www.takenet.de
f***@gmail.com
2008-06-20 16:02:03 UTC
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Who can tell me how to setup or configure this Origin rack to assign
one module as 1 and the other as 2...1 is on the bottom and has the
system disk plugged in...
You can try to erease all the logs from the pod and see if the system
try to assign new IDs or just connect to each single module and try a
"help" in the prom. There is something like "moduleid" or so which
prints the current ID and with "moduleid 123" it sets a new one.
Did this 4.5 years ago. But i remember that we have the same thing some
weeks ago in the nekochan.net forum.
Thanks Joerg...how do I get into the POD...what magic keyboard
combination...
In the PROM (without the ")
"go cac"
"clearalllogs"
"initalllogs"
"flush"
"reset" <the system will reset>
But normaly this doesnt effect the module id.
When it restarts, go back into the PROM monitor and try "moduleid X"
"enableall", "update". and "reset" again.
If you typ in "help" in the local prom you will see the right name of
the moduleid command.
Post by f***@gmail.com
my console is connected to the console input on the MMSC
in the back of the rack...and currently I get nothing coming
out...however; if I hit
<Ctrl-T> i do get the prompt..."MMSC>"
<Ctrl-T>help<enter>
With the right command you can bypass every order directly to a specific
1. Disconnect your MMSC, hook up your console diretly to port 1. of
module one (the lower one)
2. Disconnect the upper module from power and start only the lower one.
Change the settings you need and try the same with the upper module.
3. After that reconnect the MMSC and connect both modules again to
power. Use the scan function in the MMSC for scanning the new modules
and rack IDs.
 From my MMSC
MMSC> ver
R1:MMSC 2.3
R2:MMSC 2.3
Passing directly to the MSCs
MMSC> msc ver
R1U:ok VER 3.1
R1L:ok VER 3.1
R2U:ERROR TIMEOUT (ProcessCommand)
R2L:ok VER 3.1
(Module 4 isnt powered on currently)
You have to select a rack->module first befor start configuration of a
spefic MSC
MMSC>  pwr u
Starts the machine without the need of turn on the keys or pressing the
button on the LCD panel.
MMSC>  pwr d
Power off
A short list of the MSC commands for o200 can be find on techpubs[1]. A
complete list isnt available for the public. You need the "origin
hardware quick reference" book for detail infos.
Btw.. every module shows the current ID on the MSC display.
P0M1C
P0M2
P0M3
P0M4
P = Partion
0 = Number of the partion
M = Module
1 = ModulID
C = held the console
1.http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/tpl/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi/hdwr/bks/SGI_A...
regards
Joerg
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we are getting close...both of my MSC displays say P0M2...and Btw...is
there some dip switches underneath the MSC cover...I found a POD
reference manual on the XS international website that talks about
diagnostic dip switches...plus from the link you gave me...does the
Origin 2000 also have a Master/Slave switch somewhere...??
8-)
Joerg Behrens
2008-06-22 09:58:50 UTC
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we are getting close...both of my MSC displays say P0M2...and Btw...is
Now change the ID from the lower module :)
Post by f***@gmail.com
there some dip switches underneath the MSC cover...I found a POD
reference manual on the XS international website that talks about
diagnostic dip switches...plus from the link you gave me...does the
Origin 2000 also have a Master/Slave switch somewhere...??
No.

regards
Joerg
--
TakeNet GmbH, Geschaeftsfuehrer Wolfgang Meier
97080 Wuerzburg Tel: +49 931 903-2243
Alfred-Nobel-Straße 20 Fax: +49 931 903-3025
HRB Wuerzburg 6940 http://www.takenet.de
f***@gmail.com
2008-06-23 19:32:11 UTC
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we are getting close...both of my MSC displays say P0M2...and Btw...is
Now change the ID from the lower module :)
Post by f***@gmail.com
there some dip switches underneath the MSC cover...I found a POD
reference manual on the XS international website that talks about
diagnostic dip switches...plus from the link you gave me...does the
Origin 2000 also have a Master/Slave switch somewhere...??
No.
regards
Joerg
--
TakeNet GmbH,                    Geschaeftsfuehrer Wolfgang Meier
97080 Wuerzburg                  Tel: +49 931 903-2243
Alfred-Nobel-Straße 20           Fax: +49 931 903-3025
HRB Wuerzburg 6940              http://www.takenet.de
you know i forgot to tell you that i haven't been able to get a POD
prompt, any more, i seem to get a lot of boot messages coming out of
the alternate console port on the bottom back of the o2000, but no
input prompt for the POD...even after i do a NMI from the MSC
panel.....i'm not sure how i lost the prompt...it was there with the
initial "promlog" messages i first got.....here is a summary of how i
got into this mess...

My problem was that I needed to get a good CDROM on the bottom module
that had the system disk...dks0d1...
so I swapped the MSC w/Good CDROM from the TOP(module 2) to the
BOTTOM(module 1)....
But the Rack didn't come up...I didn't even get the console
output....the thing was working fine...I just wanted to use the good
CDROM from module2, but I couldn't figure a way to see the SCSI at the
top...I tried the alternate console (both consoles are from the MMSC
in the back of the rack)...but nothing showed on the VT100
terminal...so my contract customer said swap them...

Well, after this didn't work...I tried just removing the CDROM from
the MSC, and putting the original MSCs back where they were...TOP-MSC/
w Bad CDROM...BOTTOM -MSC/w Good CDROM.
The bottom module(1) is configured as the system disk location, of
course, SCSI-0, and the top module (2) is SCSI-12, etc..or that
doesn't matter, just more info for you...Now, with the MSCs in their
original locations, I get stuff on the console connection that says
"promlog: FLASH can not program a 0 to a 1" several of these from
copying FLASH Prom to memory..?? and then after some more memory
inits...I get an ALERT about the "boards in a module don't have the
same moduleids...globally change the moduleids from the MSC"...now it
goes into the Power On Diagnostic mode with the "POD>" prompt.....

At the POD I type "?" and get the list of commands, and notice the
"why" command...typing that gets a message about a Reset switch or
button being activated, and yes I did use a paper clip to push the
Reset button when my first swap as above got nothing on the console
terminal...now, I, of course have been powering down, and I would
figure that doing that puts everything back in some non-reset
state...???!!!

Well, at this point I decide to reconnect the CDROMs back as
original...TOP-MSC w/GoodCDROM and BOTTOM-MSC w/BadCDROM...and I get
the same messages..."promlog....ALERT...POD>"...Now, I try the
"module" command, and I some how end up changing the bottom module to
number 2...now I got both the top and bottom modules assigned as
2...the MMSC-Display confirms that with 2 module selections, both with
the number 2...

thanks again,
ken
8-(
f***@gmail.com
2008-07-31 20:19:05 UTC
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we are getting close...both of my MSC displays say P0M2...and Btw...is
Now change the ID from the lower module :)
Post by f***@gmail.com
there some dip switches underneath the MSC cover...I found a POD
reference manual on the XS international website that talks about
diagnostic dip switches...plus from the link you gave me...does the
Origin 2000 also have a Master/Slave switch somewhere...??
No.
regards
Joerg
--
TakeNet GmbH,                    Geschaeftsfuehrer Wolfgang Meier
97080 Wuerzburg                  Tel: +49 931 903-2243
Alfred-Nobel-Straße 20           Fax: +49 931 903-3025
HRB Wuerzburg 6940              http://www.takenet.de
you know i forgot to tell you that i haven't been able to get a POD
prompt, any more, i seem to get a lot of boot messages coming out of
the alternate console port on the bottom back of the o2000, but no
input prompt for the POD...even after i do a NMI from the MSC
panel.....i'm not sure how i lost the prompt...it was there with the
initial "promlog" messages i first got.....here is a summary of how i
got into this mess...
My problem was that I needed to get a good CDROM on the bottom module
that had the system disk...dks0d1...
so I swapped the MSC w/Good CDROM from the TOP(module 2) to the
BOTTOM(module 1)....
But the Rack didn't come up...I didn't even get the console
output....the thing was working fine...I just wanted to use the good
CDROM from module2, but I couldn't figure a way to see the SCSI at the
top...I tried the alternate console (both consoles are from the MMSC
in the back of the rack)...but nothing showed on the VT100
terminal...so my contract customer said swap them...
Well, after this didn't work...I tried just removing the CDROM from
the MSC, and putting the original MSCs back where they were...TOP-MSC/
w Bad CDROM...BOTTOM -MSC/w Good CDROM.
The bottom module(1) is configured as the system disk location, of
course, SCSI-0, and the top module (2) is SCSI-12, etc..or that
doesn't matter, just more info for you...Now, with the MSCs in their
original locations, I get stuff on the console connection that says
"promlog: FLASH can not program a 0 to a 1" several of these from
copying FLASH Prom to memory..?? and then after some more memory
inits...I get an ALERT about the "boards in a module don't  have the
same moduleids...globally change the moduleids from the MSC"...now it
goes into the Power On Diagnostic mode with the "POD>" prompt.....
At the POD I type "?" and get the list of  commands, and notice the
"why" command...typing that gets a message about a Reset switch or
button being activated, and yes I did use a paper clip to push the
Reset button when my first swap as above got nothing on the console
terminal...now, I, of course have been powering down, and I would
figure that doing that puts everything back in some non-reset
state...???!!!
Well, at this point I decide to reconnect the CDROMs back as
original...TOP-MSC w/GoodCDROM and BOTTOM-MSC w/BadCDROM...and I get
the same messages..."promlog....ALERT...POD>"...Now, I try the
"module" command, and I some how end up changing the bottom module to
number 2...now I got both the top and bottom modules assigned as
2...the MMSC-Display confirms that with 2 module selections, both with
the number 2...
thanks again,
ken
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Finally, HyperTerminal was set at Hardware flow control...u get no
response or "MSC>" prompt
when you type <Ctrl-T>....with cable connected to module diagnostic
port at the back-bottom-right!!!!
HyperT was responding input/ouput OK when connected to tty1-console-
port...flow control set to Hardware...
SGI documentation says set terminal to flow control...NONE!!!! I
missed it!!! Now...
<Ctrl-T> gives MSC>...I type mod...get back mod 2...
<Ctrl-T> gives MSC>...I type mod 1...get back mod 1...ALL is well,
now!!!
top module is at mod 2, bottom module is at mod 1...
Now, I can clean up the log files as suggested in other threads
above...!!
Back in Business...it works!!!
Ken
8-)
Praise God!! Amen!!
Joerg Behrens
2008-08-02 07:49:41 UTC
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Finally, HyperTerminal was set at Hardware flow control...u get no
response or "MSC>" prompt
when you type <Ctrl-T>....with cable connected to module diagnostic
port at the back-bottom-right!!!!
HyperT was responding input/ouput OK when connected to tty1-console-
port...flow control set to Hardware...
SGI documentation says set terminal to flow control...NONE!!!! I
missed it!!! Now...
Isnt it always "9600/8/1/n" for that kind of all stuff? For the feature
keep in mind than SGI use higher baud settings. The MMSC also supports
up to 115kbit which might be usefull when upgrading its firmware.
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<Ctrl-T> gives MSC>...I type mod...get back mod 2...
<Ctrl-T> gives MSC>...I type mod 1...get back mod 1...ALL is well,
now!!!
top module is at mod 2, bottom module is at mod 1...
Now, I can clean up the log files as suggested in other threads
above...!!
Back in Business...it works!!!
As always..."It you do it in the right way... it will works"[tm] :)

regards
Joerg
--
TakeNet GmbH, Geschaeftsfuehrer Wolfgang Meier
97080 Wuerzburg Tel: +49 931 903-2243
Alfred-Nobel-Straße 20 Fax: +49 931 903-3025
HRB Wuerzburg 6940 http://www.takenet.de
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